Vision Session Summaries - Public Safety
Session Information Date/Time Introductory/Ice Breaker Question: The Pikes Peak region is an ideal community in 2020 if: What exists currently; qualities, organizations, etc. that we need to preserve? What are things that we need to create or develop to make this your ideal community?
Diane Salek; Pikes Peak Library District; 10 participants; East Library 5550 N. Union Blvd., Colorado Springs CO 80918 11, 13, 2008, 8:00 Safe, secure community Growth is managed well Good police and fire protection Safe neighborhoods Funds for police and fire protection More social services to address problem areas in the city
Sharon Dobson PPLD Staff meeting 10 attendees East Library, Union St. Colorado Springs 11, 13, 2008, 8:00 - 300-400 more police officers are needed for a city this size -budget crunch, especially with county in reaching the surrounding areas within the Pikes Peak region - create a capital facilities district to pay for improvements - a metropolitan distracit to pay for services addressed in intro comments addressed in future comments
Kira Pasquesi Student group called the Roosevelt Institution at Colorado College 7 people Held at the Partnership for Civic Engagement at Colorado College 12, 9, 2008, 3:30 Bikers feel safe on the road, people are educated about bike safety Safety for women walking home at night Family safety in parks

Huy N. Tran Pikes Peak Library District East Library, Colorado Springs 9 attendees 11, 13, 2008, 8:00 The area has a relatively low crime rate compared to other cities of comparable population size. One of the lowest crime rates in the nation. Safe and adequate natural resources such as water and electricity. Increased education and rehabilitation to acquire a lower crime rate; Prevention through education.
Paul Martinez, Pikes Peak Library District Supervisor Meeting, Union Blvd, 10 participants. 11, 13, 2008, 8:00 Safety - more visible police and sheriffs, foot patrols - college campuses good example of security - quick response Safe and secure city environment - more patrols police and sheriff as well as foot patrols current number of officers with need to add more Increaed police and sheriff officers Laws regarding driving and texting/use of cell phones
Debbie Swanson Pikes Peak Library District Supervisors 7 PPLD East Library 11, 12, 2008, 8:00
No fear of going anyplace, especially downtown Decent public safety Improve jail capacity
Mark Tremmel,Pikes Peak Library District, 90, East Library 11, 13, 2008, 8:00 Feel Secure in town Homeless no longer issue. All feel safe and secure with all public pitching in to monitor neighbors Humane Society and police presence with integrity. Excellent and funded neighbor watch programs, safety improvements based on a 'no fear' approach (positive planning) and community 'ownership' of its own safety.
Sarah White primary faciliator, Paul Martinez secondary facilitator, scribe and entered feedback from the Urban League Facilitation session, 6 attendees, session took place at the Urban League Board Room. 1, 9, 2009, 16:00
-Lowest crime rate in the nation -Partnership with community groups and police department -quality of law enforcement as well as number - need to keep the number we have
Paula George ELD/BAC 9 people in my small group El Pomar Penrose House 1, 14, 2009, 17:30
We uplift the under-privileged, thereby reducing the recidivism rate, the need for prisons, jails, etc.

Curtis Hill El Pomar Emerging Leaders BAC - Penrose House Subgroup of 7 1, 14, 2009, 18:00 Need for Diversity on the Judical Bench Need for a Federal Courthouse Lower crime rate Attacking the reason for crime

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Suzanne Tullien, Women In Business Breakfast, about 32, New England Financial 1, 22, 2009, 8:00
Bike path safety

Karole Campbell - women's networking group @ The New England 1/22 @ 7:30A, approximately 35-40 total attendees, 12-15 in my breakout group 1, 22, 2009, 7:30
Well-designed parks & neighborhoods, more activities to keep kids engaged and active and from seeking mischief,

Jes Raintree Colorado College (Staff and students) 19 1, 22, 2009, 11:30
Higher accountability and transparency of law enforcement Low crime

Jane Aiello,BIBB, 33 total 11 in my group, NEF 1, 22, 2009, 7:30
low crime rate, meet national standards on safety personnel rates, responsible planning, no good ol' boys,
more police and fire protection
Bob Stovall, HB&A Architects 8 people, 102 East Moreno, CS 1, 23, 2009, 11:30 Activity safe; engaged citizenry; innovative government Maintain public safety and emergency services; don't let response times deteriorate More community involvement in public safety (neighborhood watch, know your neighbors); better rural response times
Shree Hardikar Nath Philosophical Cafe Group: 8 participants. Broadmoor Church, Lake Avenue. 1, 27, 2009, 10:00
Increased investment in blighted areas of city.

Shree H. Nath Addendum to Philosophical Cafe group (Last screen) 1, 27, 2009, 10:00

Safe, non-violence. Good police dept. Community involved in keeping down gang violence by offering healthy outlets. Community service for minor offenders (skill building).
Frank Kinder HB&A 13-14 1, 23, 2009, 11:00
There is a highly functional, effective, and efficient public safety system.

Kira Pasquesi El Pomar-Asian American Council, Emerging Leaders Program 8 participants Penrose House 1, 27, 2009, 6:00
Civilian don't carry guns

Jes Raintree Seniors Philosophical Cafe 10 (Table #1 Group) 40 Total Broadmoor Community Church 1, 27, 2009, 10:00
Less crime, lower crime rate Low crime rate Tougher laws Safe drivers (rude, cell phone use) Poor signage (create easier to read, placed well so there is time to read/process/react and be in the correct lane)
Jes Raintree Seniors Philosophical Cafe 40 (Large group wrap up of all 5 table groups) Broadmoor Community Church 12, 27, 2009, 10:00

Debbie Swanson Asian American Advisory Council 11 in large group - 5 in my small group Penrose House 1, 29, 2009, 17:30
(None) (None) Well-equipped and trained police department
Emilie Satterwhite, Cheyenne Village Administrative Office, In my group there were 10 participants in the discussion 2, 10, 2009, 9:00
-A community supportive of public safety and those who provide it -No overcrowded jail -No graffiti, better sanitation and well maintained streets -No homeless under the bridges -Adequate disaster plan, a Center for Disaster Preparation exists
-Improve city drainage systems so that it is safer for those with disabilities to move about the city, also sidewalks
Kira Pasquesi ESL Students 4 attendees Helen Hunt Elementary 2, 9, 2009, 6:00
Safe communities with a low crime rate Safe to walk alone at night Community responsibility and respect for neighbors Use restorative justice
Citizen "cop watch" for keeping the police honest, especially with discrimination and profiling
Kira Pasquesi Developmentally disabled and their caretakers/staff/family members 12 attendees Cheyenne Village 2, 10, 2009, 9:00
Safe community
Strong anti-gang youth services Start neighborhood watch programs
Kira Pasquesi 7th grade students 6 attendees North Middle School AVID classroom 2, 11, 2009, 2:00 Cars moving slower downtown No fights or gangs

Paula George Colorado College staff and students Nine in my small group Werner Campus Center 1, 22, 2009, 12:00 Pedestrian space, no vehicles Rehabilitation infrastructure, teaching/providing skills, not prison
Increased maintenance of streets, sidewalks, streetlights, curbs and gutters
Paula George Philosophers' Cafe 8 in my small group Broadmoor Community Church 1, 27, 2009, 10:00
No juvenile crime--they're too busy!

Kira Pasquesi 7th grade students 6 attendees North Middle School AVID program (Continued from last survey-pressed submit too soon) ,  ,  ,

Wendy Mack UCCS Group #2 8 attendees Dwire Hall, UCCS Campus 2, 13, 2009, 10:30

Debbie Swanson People w/ developmental disabilities & allies 13 in my group Cheyenne Village Admin, 6275 Lehman Dr. 2, 10, 2009, 9:00
Safe parks for families Low crime rate Friendly community - no fear in knowing neighbors Low crime rate, responsive police. More neighborhood watch programs
Debbie Swanson People w/ developmental disabilities & allies 7 West Intergenerational Learning Center 2, 11, 2009, 19:00
Feel safe in public. Not dependent on police/fire depts. to feel safe, but we watch over each other instead. Parks are a place where children are safe.

Debbie Swanson People w/ developmental disabilites & allies 12 Hillside Community Center 2, 12, 2009, 18:00
Safe Housing for all. Keep police and public services strong. Keep low crime rate, relative to cities our size.
Paula George Those who support people with developmental disabilities 8 in my small group Hillside Community Center 2, 12, 2009, 18:00
Safety is everyone's job

Frank Kinder USGBC 6 people Carnegie Room at Penrose Library. 2, 17, 2009, 16:00

Frank Kinder, with updates to USGBC on 2/17/09 4 pm at Carnegi library 2, 17, 2009, 16:00

Jane Aiello - Oz Architects 5 people Carnegie Room - Penrose Library 2, 11, 2009, 11:30 n/a felt inner city sufficiently covered - not a high degree of care toward outlaying areas n/a n/a
Kelley Hicks Group: UCCS School of Public Affairs Total Attendees: Approx 35 Location: Dwire Hall, Room 204 UCCS Campus 2, 18, 2009, 5:30 Nothing No one spoke to this topic * Military bases * Partner with the military and help keep the city safe.
Lisa Salley Resource Exchange 7 Resource Exchange office 2, 17, 2009, 8:00 None Children playing after dark with other children in neighborhood. Full lighting in parks so you can go there after dark. None Domestic violence--more supports at eh front end. Gang issues-nip it in the bud now.
Chris Beyer, Tracy Cooper, Dottie Harman Book Group 10 Tracy's house 1, 9, 2009, 12:00

Humane Society. Create a model Humane Society based on national models.

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Warren Epstein PILLAR 3 Pillar offices 2, 4, 2009, 10:00

Robin Spaulding District 20 8 attendees at my table D-20 headquarter 2, 25, 2009, 11:00 Increased safety around all schools
Police and fire
Sarah White, Academy International Elementary, 5, 8550 Charity Dr., Colorado Springs, CO 80920 2, 24, 2009, 18:00

Linda Meredith Church members 14 First Presbyterian Church 2, 23, 2009, 11:30
Low crime rate
Sense of safety and security
Paul Martinez faciliated the El Pomar ELD Black Advisory Council at Penrose House with a group of 10 1, 14, 2009, 6:00
decreased crime rate; more visible presence of police and sherrif dept

Kira Pasquesi District 20 Administration 8 people District 20 Administration Building 2, 25, 2009, 11:00
Feel safe wherever you go No firearms for everyday citizens Low crime rate No gang problem Safety initiatives in neighborhoods Better response time for police
Kira Pasquesi Wasson HS Students 7 students Wasson HS classroom 2, 25, 2009, 2:30

Crime stoppers program
Wendy Mack Public Safety Council for the QLI 10 attendess The Gay & Lesbian Fund 2, 26, 2009, 5:30 Safe We are crime free and citizens feel safe The community is safe

Paula George EDC/Hispanic Advisory Council 10 in my small group Penrose House 3, 4, 2009, 5:30
Alcohol- and drug-related deaths and injuries are at an all-time low The city is a safe place (low to no crime)

David Gardner School District 20 Administrators 8 attendees in my group (1 of 4) D20 on Chapel Hills Road 2, 25, 2009, 11:00 - low crime - keep crime low - low crime - clean city - gang/meth education and prevention
Paula George EPC Bar Association 13 Pioneers' Museum courtroom 3, 5, 2009, 16:00
Emphasis on safety Legalized drugs

Paula George Come One, Come All 11 attendees Penrose Library 3, 12, 2009, 18:00

Edward Rosinski, Rockrimmon Library Open to the public, 15 people, 3, 11, 2009, 6:30 Helping hand and neighbor watch programs

Build better community (front porches)
Lisa Tessarowicz Old Colorado City merchants, business owners, etc. 12 attendees total, 6 in my group Old Town Guest House 3, 10, 2009, 18:00

Warren Epstein, Colorado Springs Leadership Summit, 4, Antlers Hilton 3, 17, 2009, 1:00

Kira Pasquesi Leadership Summit Table 2 people Antlers Hilton 3, 17, 2009, 1:30

Paula George North Colorado Springs Rotary Club 8 in my small group Embassy Suites 3, 18, 2009, 12:00

Get rid of crime and homeless
Kira Pasquesi Arts Commission 11 people City Hall 3, 17, 2009, 4:30
Low crime rate

Jim Egbert North Colorado Springs Rotary Club 7 3, 18, 2009, 12:00
Our courts and law enforcement will have developed alternatives to building more jails.

Judith Rice-Jones/Faculty and staff of the Kraemer Library, UCCS/21 attendees/Library Conference Room 1, 20, 2009, 10:30

Trusted fire and police departments and personnel.
Judith Rice-Jones, Old North End Neighborhood Association/12/First Lutheran 3, 17, 2009, 19:30
North End known as exceptionally SAFE neighborhood, low crime rate; fast response time.

Edward Rosinski Organization: OZ Architecture and NES Landscape Architects Number: we had two groups, 7 in my group Location: OZ Architecture Bldg 3, 20, 2009, 11:30

Public safety improvements through taxes
Jane Hammoud Trafalger Drive (Briargate) Neighborhood 12 attendees. In my home on Trafalger Drive- after dinner. 3, 12, 2009, 6:30
We have the lowest crime rate in the Country. Neighborhood speed limits. Gang free city - with kids engaged in making the community safe.
Bob Stovall UCCS College of Business, 9 at Dwire Hall 2, 13, 2009, 10:30
Low crime current level of police and fire at the least Keep low crime rate
Edward Rosinski, 1, comments from on-line 8, 31, 2008,

Amy Pattin Internet comments 25 responses 3, 25, 2009, 16:30

Paula George Webpage comments 25 posters NA 3, 27, 2009, 14:00

Linda Meredith Leadership Summit, Antlers Hotel 6 3, 17, 2009, 13:30

Emilie Satterwhite CS Chamber Rising Professionals 8 (at my table x 5 tables) Colorado College - Slocum Hall 3, 31, 2009, 12:00 n/a -there is a low crime rate
-increase safety on urban trails (early mornings, after dark) -more programs to prevent recidivism -increased diversity in the police department -Protective services in parks (adopt a park or Guardian Angels) -secure funding for police department and sheriff -neighborhood watchgroups -beautification of lower income areas
Edward Rosinski, April 1st, on-line comments 3, 30, 2009,

Edward Rosinski, on-line comments 4, 1, 2009,
A city that continues to have a financial crisis and high crime rate. Or, a city that takes action to increase revenue, reduce crime, and stops the spread of closing business and eye sores working its way north from Drennan Road.

Kira Pasquesi Chamber Rising Professionals 8 people Slocum Commons, Colorado College 3, 31, 2009, 11:30
Low crime rates

Wendy Mack Rotary Group 8 people Embassy Suites 3, 18, 2009, 12:00
It's safe to be in the city, especially for kids and teens. Adequate police and fire. Safer streets for kids.
Prudence Zimmer, Leadership Summit, 5 at my table, Antlers 3, 17, 2009, 14:30 Fire Dept equitable response time of ten minutes or less; no areas of crime

Jes Raintree Cheyenne Village Administration (Goodwill Industries Clients/Staff/Care Providers) 22 2, 10, 2009, 9:00

Jes Raintree Old Colorado City Association 7 Old Town Guest House Conference Center 3, 10, 2009, 6:00

Lower incidents of drugs (sale and use) to HS kids. Crime rate remains low. More church goers, fewer number out robbing houses. 25 mph on all surface roads. Public safety to include community involvement, education, and trust. Cops don't "hangout" in groups in some parts of our community. Law enforcement "want" to do their very best, are commited community professionals.
Jes Raintree Chamber Rising Professionals 8 (1 of 5 tables) Colorado College, Slocum Hall 3, 31, 2009, 11:30 Safe walking downtown and safe to hangout in and outdoors. Low crime - no crime.

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Paula George Chamber Rising Professionals 8 in my small group Colorado College Slocum Hall 3, 31, 2009, 11:30
We are proactive rather than reactive on crime We have experts who know how to manage gang behavior The community supports local law enforcement Training programs for CSPD Get a handle on crime
Paula George CONO 12 in my small group Senior Center 4, 7, 2009, 7:00 Parks that are safe to visit We have eliminated crime because the community took collective action

Emilie Satterwhite, Come One Come All session at Sand Creek Library, 4 attendees 4, 8, 2009, 6:00
-the recidivism rate is nonexistent -the justice system uses concept of restorative or community justice most of the time -the justice system focuses on treatment (mental health or rehab) rather than prison for those in need -nonincarceration/reduced penalties for minor/misdemeanor drug infractions
-a better relationship between minority communities and the CSPD -encourage community watch groups/community policeing -a mandate requiring the use of restorative justice when applicable
Paula George Website postings 4, 10, 2009,
Less small crime like breaking and entering Safety for the elderly who choose to live in their own homes

Amber Cote, Urban League/Dream City 2020, Youth Speak Out/Town Hall , there were six youth in my group, Galileo Math and Science School 4, 11, 2009, 2:00

Paula George Youth Speak Out 6 in my small group Galileo School 4, 11, 2009, 13:00
We have no crime like breaking and entering

Edward Rosinski, Drop-In Group, 12, All Souls Unitarian Church 4, 14, 2009, 10:00

Restorative justice system Better public safety policy
Frank Kinder Leadership Pikes Peak 17 attendees. LPP HQ. 3, 3, 2009, 13:00
we are a safe, drug free community.

frank kinder, 2nd part of Leadership Pikes Peak HQ Visioning session 3, 3, 2009, 13:00

Diane Salek, Leadership Summit, Antlers Hilton, 3 attendees 3, 17, 2009, 13:30

Kira Pasquesi City Council and Senior Staff 8 attendees City Hall 4, 16, 2009, 12:00
Very safe community

Jane Aiello - Interagency @ PPWFC (6) 4, 16, 2009, 13:00 n/a n/a n/a n/a
Robin Spaulding; City council and City managers; 12 attendees; City Hall 4, 16, 2009, 11:30 One downtown where people are safe and merchants can prosper Safe community
Public safety response capable of solving problems quickly and efficiently Medical support system
Paul Martinez, Youth Speak Out Forum hosted by the Urban League, 6 attendees, co-facilitated with newer facilitator, whose name escapes me.... 4, 11, 2009, 2:00
Significant reduction in teen violence

Kathryn Curry, Scrib for the CONO Meeting at the Colorado Springs, CO Senior Center with approx 30 attendees 4, 7, 2009, 19:00 1. friendly, non-threatening DT, vibrant & safe 1.adequate public safety and fire personnel within 8 minutes 2.low crime rate 3.
1.Clean up So. Nevada
Paula George PPITT 5 in my small group Pikes Peak Workforce Center 4, 16, 2009, 13:00
Fully-funded police and fire departments, resulting in less overall crime, no homicides because residents care about each other and support each other Because of the cluster community set-up, public safety is improved through the use of technology

Jessica Lister & Amber Cote Native American Advisory Council Unknown # of attendees El Pomar 4,  , 2009, 5:30
No more drug dealers

Paula George Artemis 7 in my small group Imagination Celebration in Citadel Mall 4, 23, 2009, 11:30

LouAnn Dekleva, D11 Teacher Sounding Board,16, Tesla School 4, 13, 2009, 17:00
Safe environment for all children

LouAnn Dekleva, D11 Senior Sounding Board,12, D11 Administration Building 4, 24, 2009, 14:00

Sherry Kirk, El Paso Corp, 12, 2 N Nevada 4, 27, 2009, 11:30

-proactive zoning board
Anna Seder, Artemis Women, 7 people at my location, Celebration Place @ Citadel mall 4, 23, 2009, 11:00

Yolanda Roberts District Attorney's Office 5 people in breakout session 105 East Vermijo Street 4, 30, 2009, 11:30
...this were a safer city. ...all citizens could be armed.
-Provide self-defense classes at schools. -Reduce or limit the bar scene. Give "breath" test when leave bar. Have designated drivers, money for cab, or place to stay for drunks. -Gun safety.
Jane Hammoud, Pikes Peak Behavioral Health Group Directors, 10 4, 29, 2009, 15:00 Safe for people to be out and about everywhere. Safe place for children we have the lowest crime rate in the country. Low crime rate because people take care of themselves and others.

Mark Tremmel, Old North End Neighborhood, 22 approx., First Luthern Assembly Hall 3, 17, 2009, 15:00 Secure and safe downtown Secure downtown with diversity everywhere Neighborhood self help is enhanced Strong , familiar, friendly neighborhoods to stem crime and secure safe feeling
Paula George Diversity Forum 7 in my small group Penrose Library, Carnegie Room 5, 1, 2009, 13:00
Because citizens are engaged in the life of the community, crime is way down We practice Restorative Justice

Mark Tremmel, Community of Neighborhood Organizations (CONO), 30 approx. and Hancock Community Center 4, 7, 2009, 15:00 Safe community with hard working, friendly people who need to support with funds All feel safe and neighborhoods are engaged in security efforts Police - Fire enhanced with neighborhood strength Friendly neighborhoods closely working with citizens
Paula George SAAL 8 The ARC 4, 30, 2009, 17:30
More money to support law enforcement, fire department We eliminated all crime Laws are more strict--drug dealing is shut down The police department has robots doing some of the work

Paula George Citizens Project 8 in my small group Penrose Library Carnegie Room 4, 29, 2009, 17:00
The focus is on repairing the crime, not just punishment No "bad guys," just people with bad behavior (separate the person from the crime)

Terry Shattuck CASA 9 701 South Cascade at the CASA office 4, 8, 2009, 15:30 getting rid of jail time for non-violent offenders getting police out of cars and restaurants and on the streets. safer trails more police more focus on teaching peopl to drive better and in a more cohesivie manner. reintroduce vehicle safety inspections. Quality police and justice system with well dispersed branches. Crime stoppers
Aaron Atwood, Hispanic Advisory Council, 30 attendees, Penrose House 3, 4, 2009, 5:30
Colorado Springs is crime free

Aaron Atwood, UCCS School of Public Affairs, 12, UCCS 2, 18, 2009, 17:00 Safe q

Aaron Atwood, CASA, 8, CASA HQ 4, 8, 2009, 15:30 Safe place for kids Low crime rate
Family oriented courts More judges ot lower case loads Better funding for sherriff More active social justice Diverse government restorative justice More police officers Build intervention as an attitude
Sherry Kirk- the Diversity Forum- 6 Pikes Peak Library 5, 1, 2009, 13:00

Terry Shattuck Pikes Peak Workforce center 8 people Pikes Peak Workforce center - 2306 E. Pikes Peak Ave 4, 16, 2009, 13:00 did not come up not brought up other than the idea that if we knew each other better, we would have less need of crime remiadtion efforts 1. crime stoppers crossing quards an attitude amonst eveyone that we will look out for one another, not commit nor tolerate crima. More respos=nsibily on US and not so much on the government to solve such issues as crime and justice.
Emilie Satterwhite District Attorney's Office/Society of Women Engineers 6 attendees DAs Office 4, 30, 2009, 11:30 -safe streets -we've conquered drugs, gangs and crime -plans are in place to handle emergencies, especially rapid response teams

Jes Raintree Colorado Natives Club 18 Otis Park Community Center 4, 23, 2009, 6:00
Less crime, safe to walk anywhere at anytime

Paula George High school Girl Scouts 7 Leader's home 4, 28, 2009, 18:30
Crime rates are down

Paula George Pikes Peak Behavioral Health Group 21 in my group 525 N. Cascade (PPBHG office) 4, 29, 2009, 15:00
Social tolerance, making it safe for all There are mental health programs that eliminate the need for jail
Restorative and preventative justice
Paula George Middle School Girl Scouts 6 Leader's home 5, 5, 2009, 18:30

Paula George Clients and staff of PP Behavioral Health Group 15 Pathways 5, 6, 2009, 13:30
Violence is eradicated
No gun ownership
Anna Seder, Citizen's Project, 10 attendees (already entered), Penrose Carnegie Room 4, 29, 2009, 17:00

Kira Pasquesi El Paso Corporation 12 El Paso Corp office 4, 28, 2009, 11:30
Can walk outside at night alone No gangs Strong law enforcement Community does not tolerate crime Mutual respect for and with law enforcement Proactive enforcement and additional staff/resources Alternative involvement for those "causing trouble" Improve safety on South Nevada Less break-ins due to drug crime

Anna Seder, Citizens' Project (continued), 10 attendees, Penrose Carnegie Reading Room 4, 29, 2009, 17:00

Restorative justice. Our current system is fundamentally flawed. Recently, a resolution was adopted by City Council. Restorative justice can have a terrific impact when used properly. Restorative justice addresses recidivism, involves citizens and encourages victim/offender conferences.
Anna Seder, Citizen's Project (continued), 10 attendees, Penrose Carnegie 4, 29, 2009, 17:00

Paula George Colorado Springs Entrepreneurs 5 Cheyenne Mountain Library 5, 30, 2009, 10:00

Webpage posts 6, 4, 2009,

Frank Kinder. Manitou Springs Economic Development Council. 21 Manitou Springs City Hall. 6, 25, 2009, 6:00

Frank Kinder, Manitou EDC, 21, Jun 25. Manitou Springs City Hall. Becci, this is an update to my earlier submission, i have two more pages of notes. 6, 25, 2009, 6:00